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Name that plane!

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:26 am
by DeanH
OK,
Let's make this happen.

Here's a 'cryptic' pic. The plane IS real, it WAS around in WW2
See if you can name it, and it's Nationality.

Note, it HAS been manipulated a little, to remove any insignia, and be warned, it IS a wierd one!! :lol:

I'll wait untill such time as we've had a few replies before showing the whole thing. (there's no need to post pix, I have all I need right here)

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Cheers
DeanH (The Gen Paint Co.)

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:13 am
by geg
im hopeless at these..but a wild guess on nation of origin...Russian?

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:58 am
by Captain Kurt
It's Swiss. An EKW manufactured C-35 general purpose/reconnaissance type. Equipped 6 squadrons at outbreak of WWII. :wink:

Cheers

Capt. Kurt

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:32 am
by geg
Kurt, if thats true (and im sure it is :)) than i am in awe. lol.

i thought it was soem sort of prototype IL-2 (pod under wings, cockpit & back gunner bit) sort of crossed with a Pe-2 (tail, fuselage shape)...

what does he win? :D

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:47 pm
by DeanH
Bloody He!! Kurt! :D

I REALLY thought I'd get more than an HOUR out of THAT pic!!! heh heh

You get the award of being our "Boffin in residence" for that rare one mate!! :lol:


Answer: as it originally appeared in ww2

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and (the image that was used originally):

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asit appeared at the end of it's developmental life in the late 70's(?)
Aint that the weirdest kite you've seen?!!

Cheers all, I'd better dig a bit deeper for something that might take a little longer next time!! heh heh

DeanH

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:45 pm
by Guest
Hey, these planes were still flying when I was a little kid, I remember these long-nosed ugly thingies! :)
Some background:

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Wing span : 12.74 m / 41 ft 9 ins
Length : 12.93 m / 42 ft 5 ins
Max weight : 2634 kg / 5,807 lbs
Service ceiling : 5000 m / 16,405 ft
Max speed : 410 kmh / 255 mph
Engine : 1 x 1115hp Lycoming T53-L turbo prop


The design of this Swiss aircraft goes back to 1939 when the prototype two seater EKW C-3601 first flew. Fitted with twin fins, the aircraft was powered by a 1000 hp Hispano-Suiza HS-51 12Y piston engine, and was designed for multi purpose roles - including that of fighter, ground attack and light bomber. This prototype was destroyed after only a few flights, but had shown sufficient promise for further development.

The all metal design was put into production by the Federal Eidg. KonstruktionsWerkstatte (EKW) aircraft factory at Thun as the C-3603, and was one of the first home designs put into large scale production for the Air Force. The aircraft was fitted with two machine guns in the wings, plus a rearward facing one operated by hand by the second crew member/observer. Over 150 were delivered to the Swiss Air Force from 1942, being used to patrol Switzerland's neutral air space (along with Swiss Messerschmitt 109's), with six squadrons being equipped during World War Two, the C-3603's served until 1952 when they were replaced by DH Vampire jet fighters. In the late 1940's twenty were converted as target tugs, plus a further twenty in the early 1950's, remaining in this secondary role for a further fifteen years. The aircraft were now beginning to show their age, and the Swiss Air Force sought a replacement. Instead of a new type, a C-3603 was re-engined by FlugzeugWerk (F + W) at Emmen with a 1,100 hp Lycoming T53-L turbo-prop, housed in an extended nose. This necessitated the addition of a third tail fin, as well as other minor modifications. Trials with the prototype during August 1968 were satisfactory, and a further twenty three conversions were undertaken by F + W between 1969 and 1973 - the type now becoming the C-3605 Schlepp [Basic translation = Tug]. Although not as fast as the C-3603, this did not matter in its new role. The Schlepp continued to serve the Air Force as a target tug until fatigue problems began to show up in the mid 1980's, resulting in the types withdrawal from military service in the summer of 1987. Most were then sold off at auction at Lodrino in December 1987.
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The original plane - the Swiss "Sturmovik", so to say:
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Classic "Schlepp" paintscheme

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Fictional paint scheme.
The plane is for sale!

And some idiot apparently didn't have the proper paint job sources :?
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:48 pm
by Mosi
Hmm...this forum does not like me, it deleted my login in the post above...

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:49 am
by Moggy
Mosi - see the "difficulty in logging in" thread in "Shooting the line".

One fine day we must do a fictitious "invasion of Switzerland" theme and get this wonderful plane in the EAW sky!

See http://www.swissgnomes.com/gnomes/9.html for a possible 1943 scenario.

Well...

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:28 pm
by Wudpecker
C'mon, Dean or somebody. Let's have another one.
--Wudpecker

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:59 am
by DeanH
Sorry for the delay Wuddy,
I think I've been repairing my system since about the last time you posted in this thread! :roll:
Anyway, here's something to look at:

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Your clue, Gentlemen?
Simply put 'Don't bother to look at Hawker aircraft'

:D

DeanH